That is an interesting question, and I am sorry I didn't answer it sooner. If you want my personal opinion, I think trash talking Taylor Talk, Taylor Swift, and Taylor Swift fans was a bit of a dirty tactic on the part of the ESPN hosts to try to win votes. Prior to the Podcast Awards, I didn't actually even know their podcast existed, and I have nothing against them (although my co-host, Steve, was actually a listener of theirs). As far as whether there is a rivalry or not, I don't consider them to be rivals, because we discuss very different topics for very different audiences. I commend them for the community they've built and they seem to be having great success with their show, but what they do or say doesn't affect us, so I prefer to simply ignore any hate we receive from them. I'm sure they didn't mean any harm by saying what they did, but rather they were doing what they felt they needed to do to gain a competitive edge in the voting. From our end, we felt the best decision for us was to run a clean campaign and not retaliate, so that's what we did.
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