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Halo kak! Kira kira pesan apa yang ingin kakak sampaikan untuk anak yang baru menginjak usia 17 tahun?

Theresia Carloline Cornelius
If you're going to college get ready to get fucked up. Also, state universities aren't all that jazz. No need to cry because SNMPTN/SBMPTN failed you. If it's about the tuition fee, my university, for example, provides discounts for high GPAs and many other private universities provide scholarships.

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Sepengetahuan gue, lgbt kaga dari lahir deh cuy

himura
Lho, memang tidak. Orientasi seksual adalah hasil dari interrelasi kompleks antara faktor genetik (DNA, kromosom, hormon, dll.) dan faktor lingkungan (sosialisasi primer, budaya pop, dll.) Pada dasarnya, semua orang memiliki karakteristik orientasi seksual yang berbeda karena variansi faktor faktor tersebut, contoh paling mudah dapat kita lihat dari preferensi kita terhadap pasangan soal bentuk tubuh, misalnya. Preferensi tersebut ada asal muasalnya, toh? Nah, itu hanya salah satu aspek dari aspek orientasi seksual dan romantik secara umum yang kompleks.
Cuy.
*shudders*

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Hi, tell me something about your family history, where are they from? Who's the oldest ancestor you can still trace about?

Alkupra
My oldest and traceable ancestor would be N.N. Bär (unclear whether this is a female or male ancestor), who apparently had two sons named Hans and Marx in the early 1500s. Hans is my great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great grandfather (11 times), who lived in Affoltern, Zürich. It is my great-great-great-great-grandfather who came from Europe to Indonesia in the 1800s.

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http://ask.fm/aditgrimm/answers/141562458991 continued

The Grand Dementor of Cipete
The issue that comes forward is this: we cannot establish a thorough understanding of LGBTQ+ issues in Indonesia if we are so disjointed in our history. A lot of us who claim to represent the LGBTQ+ are often very different from the large majority that we claim to represent. It's likely that most of us borrowed and translated from Western ideals of LGBTQ+ activism, which isn't bad, really, but borrowing without deeply understanding the context isn't particularly effective, especially on a national level.
We do not 100% represent the opinions and views of the large majority of people spread out in the archipelago who may not have been exposed to these Western ideals. Of course, we all generally want the same thing, and that is the freedom to be ourselves, to love and to be with those that we love, but clearly, it is much more complex than that. Racism didn't end with the Civil Rights Movement, for example.
This does not mean, however, that our efforts or the efforts of people like Sucipto are futile or invalid, this simply means that we have a long way to go and other bigger issues to face. We may be not very different from the priyayi and social elites of the time of the Dutch East Indies, like Sucipto. The accounts of the natives who had the privilege of being literate and able to express themselves more freely should be treasured, no doubt, but still, this does not necessarily express the viewpoints of others, especially the less-privileged others.
For example, one claims that for centuries Indonesia has accepted gender variance because of the existence of the Bugis culture with their five genders, but before one makes that claim, to what extent does the Bugis culture influence mainstream Indonesian culture, because clearly, people from the island of Sumatra, for example, do not share the same views. The very idea of Indonesia as a unity is problematic, because each culture has unique dynamics and social structures. One can say that Bugis culture is an excellent example of indigenous LGBTQ+ culture, but to a wider scope, this claim may not be fully valid.

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adittt how are you this evening

Sop Ayam
Hello, I will occasionally pop in to spread any interesting information. I am doing great since I've left ask.fm. Anyway, this might be of interest to some people.
I was discussing the state of LGBTQ+ people during the time of the Dutch East Indies with a few people yesterday, because of course, a lot of us can't really picture homosexuality before our era. Indeed, we are so disjointed from our history that even between me and a 30-something gay guy, there is a chasm of differing viewpoints and linguistic repertoire. Imagine what it's like a century back or so.
http://jejakislam.net/jerat-kaum-homoseksual-di-masa-kolonial/
This article contains a few accounts (even a few from President Soekarno) regarding homosexuality during the advent of Indonesia as a nation. The author of this article writes of homosexuality as a deviance, but if you can put that aside for a while, this is quite a worthwhile read.
Apparently, there was a crackdown in 1938 in many Indonesian urban and rural areas for homosexuals and pedophiles (ironically, today, the AILA, for example, still does this). The Dutch themselves did not prohibit homosexuality explicitly in the Netherlands, and apparently they enacted the crackdown in Indonesia in relation to its understanding from within the natives' beliefs.
This was a particularly problematic thing because the people targeted were mostly European men who solicited the services of young, native Indonesian boys. The exploitation of these young boys is not separate from the colonial supremacy, regardless of the nature of the sexual exploitation. Still, this presents an issue, because homophobia has much more tangled roots than we thought in Indonesia.
The beginning of the 20th century was more or less a decadent time for the Dutch East Indies, and European gays had the privilege of being out and about, while the native Indonesians did not. With this, the perception towards homosexuality is strengthened to be likened to a Western, colonial power, unrecognized within the archipelago as something naturally occurring.
The sad fact is, one does not hear a lot of the voices of those native LGBTQ+ individuals, for their voice is the voice that matters in this issue compared to the European ones or the non-LGBTQ+ natives, and yet, of course, theirs are drowned. One precious account came from Sucipto, born in 1910, and told of his experiences throughout the last vestiges of the time of the Dutch East Indies, expressed in the book 'Gay Pilihan Jalan Hidupku: Pengakuan Seorang Gay Priyayi Jawa Zaman Penjajahan Belanda'.
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