#fansigns

KHÔNG BIẾT EM ĐÃ ẤN VÀO CÁI LINK NÀY TRƯỚC KHI ASK CHO GẤU KHÔNG EM NHỈ? SÁNG ĐẾN GIỜ EM CŨNG ĐÃ SPAM HƠN 5 LẦN RỒI EM NHÉ!

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VÀ CÁC BẠN KHÁC CŨNG LƯU Ý :

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TEAM GẤU KHÔNG CÒN NHẬN LÀM FANSIGNS HAY LOGO NỮA NHÉ! BỌN MÌNH ĐÃ UPDATE THÔNG BÁO VIỆC NGƯNG NHẬN VÀ CŨNG ĐÃ KÈM LINK VÀO INFO NÊN MONG MỌI NGƯỜI LƯU Ý TÍ NHÉ!

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MỌI ASK NHỜ LÀM FANSIGNS HAY LOGO GẤU SẼ XOÁ HẾT NHÉ. DÙ BẠN CÓ BÃO HAY CHƯA BÃO GẤU CŨNG SẼ XOÁ HẾT NHÉ.

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NẾU CÁC BẠN CẦN THÌ CÓ THỂ LÊN INSTAGRAM NHỜ CÁC CHỊ VẼ FANSIGNS NHÉ MÀ TRÊN ĐẤY LÀ MUA FANSIGNS ĐẤY Ạ, ÍT CÓ CHỖ VẼ FREE LẮM.

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CÒN MUỐN FREE THÌ SANG @keongotteam, BÊN ĐẤY MỖI THÁNG CÓ NHẬN LÀM HAI FANSIGNS ĐẤY Ạ.

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CÒN KHÔNG MUỐN MẤT TIỀN HAY KHÔNG MUỐN MẤT SLOT NHỜ VẼ THÌ CÓ THỂ TỰ DOWN APP PICSART HAY SKETCHBOOK VỀ RỒI LÊN YOUTUBE XEM VID HƯỚNG DẪN RỒI TỰ VẼ NHA~

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ĐÂY LÀ LẦN CUỐI MÌNH REP ASK NHỜ LÀM FANSIGNS NHÉ. NHỮNG BẠN BỮA GIỜ VẪN NHỜ LÀM THÌ CÓ THỂ UNLIKE NHÉ.

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CẢM ƠN ĐÃ ĐỌC HẾT ASK NÀY~

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I think this kind of thing is really hard to measure objectively? Because the popularity of Kpop groups overseas is often measured in like... how fast they sell out arenas and their albums performance on iTunes, etc. which can be skewed by things like how easy it is to get kpop albums in that country, how many times they've visited that country, etc. But in general, BTS is doing really well in Korea right now. They're very popular (meaning they have a ton of fans), but they're not super famous (meaning that they don't have the same recognition among non-fans as, say, Big Bang or EXO would). During WINGS era, the number of albums that you had to buy for fansigns was hovering up around the 80s-100s, but for YNWA it dropped back down to around 60-70 for Koreans (it's always higher for foreigners). For BTS' music shows you don't have to queue overnight because all of the numbers are given on the fancafe, but usually they have ~1100 people who sign up for each music show, and around ~350 who are allowed in, which is the full capacity of the broadcasting halls.

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« Bonjour, ce n'est pas vraiment une question mais.. Après cette journée de 3rd Muster (Tony Montana, So That I Love You, les jeux par équipe, les confessions des membres ect..) je suis heureuse pour ces fans mais je ne peux m'empêcher de tellement les envier ;;. Puis lors des fansigns les ARMYs les ARMYs semblent parler si naturellement avec les membres. Les tweets sont quasiment tous en coréen.. Je sais qu'ils pensent à nous et je ne leur en veux pas du tout, mais ne trouvez-vous pas que c'est quand même (très) dur pour les fans internationaux ;; ? Pardonnez le pavé, et fighting ! »
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Bonsoir, il y a un point sur lequel nous te donnons notre accord : c’est parfois plus difficile d’être un fan international, qu’être un fan coréen. Et, tu fais bien de dire que, ni les garçons, ni les fans coréens, ni quiconque n’est à blâmer dans la situation. Néanmoins, si, par exemple, BANGTAN France existe, c’est pour rendre le tout plus aisé, pour que les fans francophones aiment BTS plus aisément, soutiennent BTS plus aisément, et vivent avec BTS cette aventure plus aisément ! Et, à cette fin, qui nous est chère, nous faisons au mieux pour alléger la distance entre eux et nous !

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lmao what is this bullshit. vmin has always been "real" -- they're super close friends. maknaeline are all super close with each other.

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idk how you think people irl work but just bc person A is nice to person B doesn't mean that person A suddenly stops caring about everyone else in the world. their lives are not a soap opera and you should stop comparing their relationships because they all have fundamental elements that should be valued by themselves.

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you can feel free to "change heart" I really don't care just try not to project onto me mmkaayy.

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I'm on the taekook ship bc I love their dynamic more than any other ship's. just because I ship taekook doesn't mean I don't value tae/kook's relationships with others. if you're one of those shippers who thinks tae/kook can only have one person in their life then you should re-evaluate your stance on what makes a healthy relationship.

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Probably not? Because like, honestly this sounds really weird to say from my own mouth but it's not like accounts with a large number of followers were born that way... like I didn't start Twitter and instantly have 35K followers or whatever. I gained those followers by doing lyrics and article translations, writing fanaccounts, doing orders, hosting letter projects etc.

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I mean, I definitely don't want it to sound like I'm saying I deserve it or something? But I think of it like, I guess in an ideal world the reason people are willing to buy albums from me to help me get into fansigns is because they like me or they like some service that I provide them and they feel like buying albums through me is a fair trade for that. So I feel like saying "omg that's so unfair" is a little like... not silly exactly but I feel like it kind of simplifies or disregards a part of the circumstances that led to it being possible.

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Also for me, on the issue of fansites, for me it's like... fansites work so fucking hard?? Going to airports and concerts and events and music shows, taking pictures, editing, making goods, maintaining camera equipment etc. like being a fansite is not easy and if the least I can do to help is buy an album to help that fansite get into a fansign and take pretty pictures for me to look at, then I'm more than happy to do that.

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IDK IF THAT EVEN MAKES SENSE anyway that's just my thoughts on it!

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it's never okay to pointlessly resent and be bitter about how it's easier for them, but don't deny that it's easier. because it is.

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Yeah, but that wasn't the discussion being presented. The discussion being presented was "(some) k-army can see BTS whenever they want on the street" vs. "poor international fans who have to pay hundreds for a hi-touch." This is blatantly false--likely a misunderstanding, but nonetheless a misrepresentation of how easy it actually is for any fan in Korea (foreign or otherwise) to have any kind of meaningful encounter with BTS in a non-controlled way. It is actually very rare for fans to encounter BTS outside of their official schedules, and in the off-chance that you do, it's very unlikely that you'd be able to hold any kind of conversation with them whatsoever. The way that BTS interacts with their fans is very strictly controlled by their management and by the boys themselves, so no, in 99.99% of situations, any random person could not just meet BTS on the street and say whatever they want.

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Furthermore, the idea that it's easy for k-army to go to concerts (when those concerts often sell out in minutes) or to fansigns (when those fansigns cost hundreds if not thousands to get into) is also a misunderstanding of the truth. Fansigns and concerts might be held in Korea but that does not by any means make them easy to get to. In fact, concerts and fansigns alike are, for a good number of fans, impossible to attend by virtue of being cost-prohibitive or too far away. School-aged fans can't attend broadcasts or even watch their shows, depending on their school and academy schedule.

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There are different challenges posed to fans living in any location, but portraying one fan's experience as "easy" and one as "difficult" based on something as arbitrary as their location in the world is a vast oversimplification and unfair to both overseas fans and those living in Korea.

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Trước chị cũng mong Daesang lắm nhưng nếu tình hình quý cuối năm mà Bigbang comeback với full album MADE thì càng chật đường hơn cho BTS. Cái album EX'ACT gì gì đấy của EXO lượng sales cũng khá khủng (700-800k copies) nên cả 2 mảng physical lẫn digital đều có cạnh tranh khốc liệt. Cái này là chị nói thật. Cuối năm BTS comeback thật , hi vọng bighit cho promote trước tháng 11 , Album đc sx nhiều version, tổ chức nhiều fansigns để fan chạy sales cho kịp và MADE của BB dời sang đầu năm sau thì cơ hội mới còn cao.
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Còn về độ nổi tiếng của BTS ở Hàn thì đúng là nhóm đang lên thật, đã qua giai đoạn nugu nhưng độ phủ sóng chưa cao em ạ. Bạn bè chị quen bên Hàn chả ai quan tâm hay nghe nhạc của BTS cả ? Đi cf thì "I need u" với "dope" là hay phát thôi, b-side track khác hầu như chị chưa bh nghe thấy. Ngược lại vs BB hay EXO thậm chí là BEAST :((( Chưa kể sự bùng nổ của BTS bây giờ vẫn chưa thể so với ShiBeIn (SHINee-BEAST-INFINITE) mấy năm về trước được. Đúng là nhóm bây giờ được chú ý nhiều nhưng vẫn còn mang danh hậu Rising Star vì chưa có bài hát nào bật lên thành bài hát quốc dân khiến non kpop fan cũng biết. Cơ mà chưa chứ không hẳn là không thể. Còn vụ nổi ở quốc tế hơn là đúng. Sự thật bây giờ BTS thay SJ mang danh con ghẻ quốc dân con cưng quốc tế cũng không sai đâu. Tóm lại BTS còn 1 chặng đường dài để đi ^^ Hãy kì vọng vào album tới.

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Yongguk: friendly and shy; warm firm handshake / high five (one of our admins was surprised when he grabbed her hands and interlocked his fingers with hers when he did a high ten with her); gummy grin is very charming; very humble
Himchan: A diva sometimes; cute and full of aegyo mixed with occasional bursts of handsome poses; would thank people for coming for fansigns and to see B.A.P at events; generally a cheery figure. His skin is glowing and beautiful. His hands are smooth and pale.
Daehyun: Funloving person who smiles and laughs a lot. our admin said "his eye smiles are no joke! omg!" He talks quite a lot and sometimes jokes with you. The way he looks into your eyes would melt you. His hands are very pretty >_<
Youngjae: Funloving person like Daehyun; his eyes twinkle when he finds something funny; he would make jokes and laugh with you heartily; he is quite cheeky sometimes.
Jongup: quite a 4D character; he likes squinting his eyes at you and our admin said "he seems to be judging you when he does that!" ? He is serious when he speaks but you can tell that it is laced with some amusement (but we never know what he is amused about...)
Zelo: Very warm and friendly; in person, he listens to what you have to say very carefully and attentively. Our admin said "it's as if you are the only person in the universe that matters to him at that time... he is so sweet!" He would readily speak to you in English as much as he can if he knows you are not Korean.

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(2) the other 6 members. She's throwing the opportunity to talk to rest of bangtan which is a dream come true for other people just because jungkook is not there. I think that is the issue.

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Honestly I don't know. Like, on the one hand I don't think that publicly tweeting Big Hit from your fansite twitter is a great way to address the issue of refunds but on the other hand, she is exclusively a Jungkook fansite and if the member she actively takes photos of is not going to be at the fansign, I can understand why she wouldn't go? Fansites are a little different than regular fans in that regard.

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When Namjoon was 불참 from the fansigns during Run promotions, the staff made a post about it before the buying periods for the relevant fansigns were over, meaning that fansites could just choose not to buy for that fansign (since fansites generally buy toward the end of the buying period anyway). However, Jungkook's absence was announced literally 30 mins before the fansign started, as in they'd already set up the mic and everything for him, so the money was gone and she was already AT the fansign only to find out her member wasn't going to be there... So I can understand her frustration from that point of view.

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Plus, taking into account the fact that it's not only this fansign but all fansigns and all promotions, and then BTS are basically going to be overseas until 2017... I don't think she went about it the right way at all, but I also do kind of understand where she's coming from on that front, I guess.

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