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Did you truly enjoy making the gmc comic? I don't mean "did you find them funny or like seeing others reactions". I mean, did you actually like the act of actually conceiving and drawing the comics?

Eh. By the end, not that much. Specifically, it was starting to become a chore because I didn't have any comics I REALLY wanted to make, I'd run out of ideas, etc. When I had comics I wanted to make (for instance, if there was an event on the forum I wanted to poke fun at, or something) it was fun enough. But I enjoyed the community interaction more than the actual drawing process, yeah.
As for the other question, I might make something in the future. But I don't have current plans.

Do you still make comics or did it die out? You should make more man. They were legitimately cool. Don't do it cause of people pushing you, but seriously... keep making them once in a while. They were quite funny. Also, long time no see. - Insert Name Here

"Don't do it cause of people pushing you, but seriously... keep making them"
lol

All yoyogames is obligated to prevent is public access to games without the developers consent. Absolutely nowhere is there anything saying that someone can't hold on to them privately for 100 years until the copyrights expire. A private backup is better than absolutely no backup in my book.

Then make one? No one's stopping you.

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I still think they ought to just quick-make a feature to mass download games. Then people would at least be able to easily make backups for their own personal use. Legal issues about public access can be dealt with later. At least let people preserve it (even if only in a private manner).

No. Those legal issues cannot be dealt with later. YoYo is a company which has legal obligations to uphold its TOS.

Plus, I'm sure yoyo can very easily do q blanket search and delete large swaths of click the clown games. With the search option I could easily remove a hundred or so in a few minutes. It's not that hard to dig through. They should at least port the featured games.

The Great Duck
I feel it's less "we don't think there's anything here worth saving" and more "it's time to move on, collectively". I don't blame them for wanting a fresh start, even though it will suck to lose a bit of history.

I know yer not yoyos rep. I saw the discussion and thought I'd offer my two cents to you personally. You had some strong opinions and I felt like replying to them.

The Great Duck
I guess. :P

I think what YOYO should do is choose to cut certain large chunks of games. Nobody can legally accuse them of anything as they have their discretion to screen games. Furthermore, it would be a win win situation. No legal bullshit. No loss of games. No loss of true content.

The Great Duck
This is too much work. How do you judge it? Who do you appoint to do it?
Anyway, the Sandbox is old and broken. It wasn't going to stay up forever nor should it. YoYo are moving on and so should you.
Also, I'm not Nocturne. If you have issues with the GMC or YoYo, take it up with them. I'm not their representative.

Well Phoenix GMC will never be tainted by my presence, so I think they'll all be happy anyway. I know you all want me to go away. I'm not stupid, y'know. I can they all talked about me behind my back when I was there. Farewell Stewart. Perhaps someday we will meet again.

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Well I don't know rumors and hearsay. I guess I'll just end this random discussion and say that I don't think it's bad place to get game dev help when it's related to gaming. However, I seriously doubt anyone has made a fully editable game. If they did they need to rethink their design choice. (Jk)

That's what we call "backtracking", son :P
Also, "a fully editable game"? All games are fully editable.

I'm just saying that it's unlikely to be helpful to ask a game community a programming question that has nothing to do with established genres. It's just a likely fact that nobody will know about it. A few experts might but not likely the major community of people. Anyway, I have my eyes on a user.

The Great Duck
Yes - but by asking the community, you allow the experts to see your question! If asking the GMC for programming help wasn't useful, why are all the advanced programmers doing it? :)

Yeah but ninety it's arguably better to have one expert in the area you want to know about than to have a general moderate in the broader subject as a whole. Yer less likely to get help. In fact, I wouldn't be shocked if my use ends up getting the save bug removed, if only to promote paid upgrades.

Right - but that's still not a reason why the GMC is a BAD place to get help.
Also, you're overestimating how much the rest of the GMC cares about all this, again...

And I am being truthful. Most games use the same base gameplay. Platforms, swipe and match, puzzle, turn based rpg, table top rpg, etc. They only vary by what people do in them. Rarely does something come along and advance the method behind it. It takes an odd and fully original game to advance GD.

The Great Duck
Well it's true that most games fit within an established genre, but that's true of all game development. It's not a problem with the GMC.

No my problem is that I don't want to have to write credits for all those people in my game and secondly, I never ventured out of off topic. I heard the Q&A sections sucked. Sorry if that's my opinion. Besides, they're not going to know how to use a GM glitch that is arguably bad style to use.

The Great Duck
The fact that you don't want to write credits for other people's contribution does not make the GMC a bad place to get help. The fact that you "never ventured out of off topic" means you have no right to claim it "rarely got good programming tips", especially when you admit you've barely been there since you left.

No I go to specific users I know outside the site that are competent and ask them for help. The GMC is more of an artistic community. It's rarely got good programming tips. Let's face it, other than the real gems almost all games have the same basic code and framework and general gameplay types.

The Great Duck
Now you're just making up shit. There are more good programmers than ever on the GMC (orange451, UltimateOmicron, Braffolk, Xor, Xygthop, Nocturne, 11clock, Obscene, aamatniekss, cookieboy to name a few). Almost the entirety of possibility with GM is documented on the GMC. Your problem is that you're too pretentious.

Be realistic, Stewart. The Q&A sections are horrible.

Soooo.... You'd go to OFF TOPIC for programming questions... instead of the DEDICATED PROGRAMMING SECTION?

You know I mean interested in off topic as in interested in getting coding help from off topic. -_- Roytheshort /alone/ could inspire an encyclopedia. They are a good rescource, for parody.

The Great Duck
Why would you go to Off Topic for coding help? That doesn't make any sense.

Also, just to make it clearer. I'm not insulting off-topic. A large number of them are self taught (which is a /legit/ disadvantage), and many more of them DO NOT MAKE GAMES OR INTEND TO. So for me to say I'm not interested in off topic is no different than you not wanting comic help from mechanics.

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"I'm not interested in OT"
"Let me tell you about the novel I'm writing based on OT"

I think that last answer came through wrong. Anyway, I wouldn't ask for help. (Besides any other reasons, YER A UNITY USER YOU HEATHEN!)

The Great Duck
I said "Well, you do you, man".
Yes we've established you're not asking for help.

Of course I'm not. I could do just as well in pro. I choose to do it because I enjoy the challenge of trying to work around less features. Plus, I hear that pro shoves more stuff in the compilation (since more stuff is used). So it would be a good design choice. My game is more optimized as a result

The Great Duck
well you do you man

Well anyway, I have my eyes set on certain people I've noticed doing this sort of stuff. I won't say who. But, I have looked at the documentation and the save glitch was actually a feature. So, I /can/ upgrade assuming my coding style holds within the new parsers and stuff.

The Great Duck
ok

Well even if it's the free studio version, it's still the free version. A lot of people say the free versions are useless and that you need money to use game maker. I might have spent money but I intend to prove that audience wrong. It'd be like using Mario paint for yer comics. It's a neg. stigma.

Studio Standard and Lite are completely different things
Also there's nothing wrong with using tools which are better for the job. Making a cartoon in Mario Paint doesn't prove anything. Again, you're welcome to use Lite or Standard or whatever... Just don't pretend it makes you a better developer

I'm not saying I'm a good programmer. In saying that there's no reason I would ask you for help converting to studio. It would be highly unlikely that you've messed with things in the region in working. It may be easy. It's just not what would be considered normal. Especially the sounds (Tis hacky).

The Great Duck
The only reason I said anything was because the wording in your question was ambiguous and implied you were going to ask me. I'm not a good programmer.

No, but I know how the off topic people are. Procrastination, younger than 18, and generally not having any CS related studies. And they certainly aren't committed to making an entire game in nothing but the lite version.

The Great Duck
Ah yes, "the Off Topic people". You've never been one of those, right?
And once more: why the HELL are so you committed to using the Lite version, when it's years out of date? I mean, it's cool if you prefer it, but it's no reason to show off.

Make yer own Sprite system, and default room storage system (needed for modding), changeable enemy AI, customizable attacks, block changing system, and then tell me an ordinary programmer can deal with that on top of a sound based transferring code using an ad-hocced 256 extended ascii table.

The Great Duck
Shouting random buzzwords at me doesn't make you a good programmer. Results are the only thing anyone cares about.

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