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Russia just invaded the Ukraine. Thoughts?

Jack

March 10, 2022

Don't confront a nuclear power with a leader who leads like a thug. I'm convinced Putin's looking to make an example of the US, and he has the upper hand strategically. Putin cheated on every treaty that the US conformed to since the end of the cold war.
Things may be bad, and they will get worse for Ukraine. The US must act in its own best interests and not get involved. If we do get involved, New York City and Washington DC will be the most likely pawns to fall in a nuclear gambit.
It is not worth confrontation and American lives at this point to be involved. We must conserve our strategic strength to deter China from Taiwan and North Korea from South Korea, which we do have great strategic interests in maintaining the current status quo. If we get involved in Ukraine in any way whatsoever, we will lose more than a million American lives and strategic deterrence in every other area of our interests.

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Javacow

March 12, 2022

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Carolyn Aimee Banner

March 09, 2022

All of the people in Russia need shot.

SigilART

March 08, 2022

I'm for Russia on this one. I don't support Ukrainian Azov fascists or Banderists, that and I proudly celebrate #ElbeDay with my Slavic partisan brothers and Russians as coming from an American WWII family, myself.

MIKE

March 08, 2022

WARNING: Long but informative

A very unfortunate, but unsurprising event that puts the world on the brink for a potential WW3. Not even trying to be a doomer in saying this. To those reading who are still unaware of why: Multiple members of NATO have nuclear weapons and are assisting Ukraine in fighting Russia who also has nukes. Given that nuclear war is in no one's best interest, it's still on the unlikely side but it remains a real possibility which is actually scary to think about. This war and Biden's general ineptitude are fucking up gas prices too which also sucks. Not good in the slightest.

The good news is that the US and Russia have set up a communications hotline to prevent any miscalculations. While not foolproof, it is a step in the right direction. The Ukrainians are also putting up a hell of a fight and their leader Zelenskyy is a total Gigachad badass. My only problem with him is his call for a no-fly zone, which he is simply saying in the fog of war and at the height of emotion. While intervention is naturally tempting this is a very high stakes situation. Not to bash him but he doesn't seem to fully understand what the consequences are. A no-fly zone implies shooting down Russian jets which would bring us into a hot war with Russia and quite possibly be the end of humanity as we know it. The strong valiant fight that he and the Ukrainians put up would be for nothing at that point. There are even some Neo-cons who don't endorse a no-fly zone which really puts things into perspective.

Let me be clear that not being in favor of a no-fly zone is not an endorsement for doing nothing at all. Had nukes not been a thing I would 100% support intervention. There are actions that can be taken short of no-fly zones and direct conflict. Preferably tighter sanctions, supplying Ukrainian fighters, not buying more Russian oil and getting China and Israel to broker peace because these are two of only several states that either Russia or Ukraine would listen to as they are allies with both. Turkey wants to take a stab at it too. Between this and the MLB lockout, things are currently shit.